tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12596769.post2640219901757032974..comments2023-12-23T13:25:43.770-08:00Comments on Rob Kremer: Kitzhaber's "Jobs Plan"Rob Kremerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13842508120324878364noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12596769.post-44796354627670281932010-01-16T18:51:31.251-08:002010-01-16T18:51:31.251-08:00transparent
Seems to be the new buzzword for the ...<i>transparent</i><br /><br />Seems to be the new buzzword for the Left. Obama campaigned on it. Now that he's in office, everything goes on behind closed doors.<br /><br />Not surprising that Kitz uses the term. Everyone at Metro is using it, too. Heck, about the only place where it isn't in vogue seems to be the City of Portland.<br /><br />Of course, when the Mayor has been driving around shopping mall parking lots with his pants around his ankles, you don't need to talk about transparency so much.MAX Redlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12040240474444763721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12596769.post-39556382822308944522010-01-16T14:14:36.346-08:002010-01-16T14:14:36.346-08:00Progressives know that the private sector only exi...Progressives know that the private sector only exists because government allows it to.<br /><br />That's why the government can dictate the terms and conditions under which the private sector operates. Everyone accepts that.<br /><br />You act as if we are existing in a sea of liberty, with islands of regulation. When it's just the other way around. You have it backwards.<br /><br />Conservatives are so asleep. Don't you realize we've been in a New Progressive Era for a long, long time? What is it going to take for you to see the light?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12596769.post-49353999623978001022010-01-16T11:25:30.042-08:002010-01-16T11:25:30.042-08:00Governor telling private industry what to produce....Governor telling private industry what to produce...<br /><br />"It wouldn't make sense for him to propose things that private companies should do."<br /><br />Sure. And I agree. Except for sectors of the economy. Like energy. And resource extraction. You know, logging and fishing. Mining. And construction. <br /><br />Yep. The "hands off" approach to private sector activity has been staggering in the last 16 years. As, I'm sure, would be another four under Kitz.<br /><br />Brilliant analysis.<br />.OregonGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08096619871119860938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12596769.post-23676212256012854062010-01-15T19:27:55.249-08:002010-01-15T19:27:55.249-08:00Um, Kari. Your disclosure carries little weight; y...Um, Kari. Your disclosure carries little weight; you always beg the question, "Qui bono?"<br /><br />Nice try on the straw man. Duh. The governor is the state's Chief Executive.<br /><br />This is what it's about: Is it the role of the state's Chief Executive to do harm to the private sector? We all know where Progressives stand on that. The private sector is just your bitch. By pulling the straw man, you de facto admit it.Conscience of a Moonbatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12596769.post-72770376260636629322010-01-15T12:01:26.428-08:002010-01-15T12:01:26.428-08:00He can only think in terms of government.
Um, Rob...<i>He can only think in terms of government.</i><br /><br />Um, Rob, you do understand that he's running for Governor, right?<br /><br />In that role, he'll be the chief executive of the state government. We shouldn't be surprised that he's proposing stuff that the state government should do to help (including, in some cases, getting out of the way.)<br /><br />It wouldn't make sense for him to propose things that private companies should do. ("Hey Nike, make some better basketball shoes! Hey Intel, have you considered making chips for cell phones?")<br /><br />When Chris Dudley rolls out his detailed jobs plan, I expect he'll have very different prescriptions, but they'll also all be things that the state government should (or shouldn't) do.<br /><br />Reasonable people can disagree about what the governor should be doing - but let's at least be clear on the job description: The governor runs the state government. <br /><br />(Full disclosure: My firm built Kitzhaber's campaign website, but I speak only for myself.)Kari Chisholmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12596769.post-80625353009990373822010-01-15T09:46:46.008-08:002010-01-15T09:46:46.008-08:00I have looked across the table during Portland cit...I have looked across the table during Portland city council meetings and witnessed that same vacuity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12596769.post-59874435939678943552010-01-15T08:40:43.525-08:002010-01-15T08:40:43.525-08:00Kitzhaber is as much a jobs guy as is Metro or any...Kitzhaber is as much a jobs guy as is Metro or any other Oregon "Institution".<br /><br />John Kitzhaber has absolutely NO leadership skills. He simply delegates all control to public employee union bureaucrats while "challening" everyone else to meet the "challenges" Oregon faces.<br /><br />He's a real challenging guy.<br /><br />Honest I've looked deep into his eyes at public hearings and there's nothing else there. <br /><br />He's just a weird person who should have been a warehouseman or something.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12596769.post-52617493254271327372010-01-14T21:09:59.821-08:002010-01-14T21:09:59.821-08:00Ugh. I read it. We are in trouble if this guy is o...Ugh. I read it. We are in trouble if this guy is once again governor. Thanks for writing about this, Rob. <br /><br />Do others on the left actually read this stuff and think it is OK?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12596769.post-1515028337070787542010-01-14T15:57:44.480-08:002010-01-14T15:57:44.480-08:00What is especially sad is that this "program&...What is especially sad is that this "program" for jobs will become the handbook for educators across the state.<br /><br />Our kids will be told that these are the steps necessary to create future, sustainable jobs.<br /><br />And why not? <br /><br />They aren't working now. They won't be working then.<br /><br />They'll graduate, though. <br />.OregonGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08096619871119860938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12596769.post-11229041509975530662010-01-14T15:08:06.570-08:002010-01-14T15:08:06.570-08:00Exactly what I was thinking!
The worst part is th...Exactly what I was thinking!<br /><br />The worst part is that people like Kitzhaber actually believe this is a solution!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12596769.post-83369900269159020092010-01-14T11:51:46.589-08:002010-01-14T11:51:46.589-08:00Anon 10:43 may be overstating the case, but only b...Anon 10:43 may be overstating the case, but only by a little. We need enough of a private sector to tax. Otherwise, Kitzhaber sees little use for it.<br /><br />His last tenure was a catastrophe for rural Oregon. He did everything possible to ensure that economic development doesn't take place anywhere outside of the Willamette Valley--and he doesn't want to see much of it there. Families have been migrating from rural to urban Oregon for over a decade. Outside of the Portland to Eugene corridor, school districts have seen huge declines in their student populations. They've cut programs, then staff, then programs again, in a vicious cycle that has put many of them in a state of permanent decline. <br /><br />He used every tool at his command to destroy the social structures necessary for a healthy, dynamic economy. The huge cadre of no-growthers loves this, of course, and he'll get their votes. However, anyone who wants to see a prosperous, vibrant Oregon should work hard to send him packing politically.rural residentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12596769.post-83781231026553646592010-01-14T10:43:17.308-08:002010-01-14T10:43:17.308-08:00I don't think you're giving Gov. Kitzhaber...I don't think you're giving Gov. Kitzhaber enough credit. He sees - and is doing everything possible to create - a future in which there is no private sector in Oregon. That is his real prescription.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com